Vegan diet? Hilft nicht später zu sterben

[passante]

Hier ein sehr gut gemacht und interessante studie dass sag uns, das gibt es keine unterscheide zwische vegetarier, vegane und omni mit niedrige fleisch konsum am die gesundheit

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/103/1/218.long

[Nullpositiv]

Nein das sagt sie nicht.

Und die EInschänkungen
Limitations of the study include the simple adjustment for physical activity and the uneven distribution of participants by sex (three-quarters of participants were women). The study participants are not representative of the United Kingdom population, but the mean intake of red meat in our reference group of regular meat eaters (84 g/d in men and 70 g/d in women) are similar to those of adults aged 19–64 y in the UK National Diet and Nutrition Survey (86 g/d in men and 56 g/d in women)
würde ich auch nicht unterbewerten.

Davon ab das sie in UK gemacht wurde. Und die schon zu lange abgeschottet auf ihrer Insel leben.

[passante]

In this analysis of mortality by diet group in a population with a high percentage of vegetarians and others who eat little or no meat, we found no significant differences in all-cause mortality between the diet groups. For specific causes of death, compared with regular meat eaters, low meat eaters had ∼30–45% lower mortality from pancreatic cancer, respiratory disease, and all other causes of death, fish eaters had ∼20% lower mortality from malignant cancer and ∼20% higher circulatory disease mortality, and vegetarians and vegans had ∼50% lower mortality from pancreatic cancer and cancers of the lymphatic/hematopoietic tissue. These findings were essentially unchanged on further adjustment for BMI, and generally were robust across categories of sex, smoking, and BMI for the 6 most common causes of death. When we excluded data for participants known to have changed diet group at least once during follow-up (on the basis that a change in diet group could be prompted by the onset of illness), compared with regular meat eaters, low meat eaters had ∼45% lower mortality from pancreatic cancer and ∼30% lower respiratory disease mortality, fish eaters had ∼25% lower mortality from malignant cancer, and vegetarians and vegans had ∼10% lower all-cause mortality, ∼20% lower mortality from malignant cancer, and ∼50–60% lower mortality from pancreatic cancer and cancers of the lymphatic/hematopoietic tissue. Separating the vegetarians and vegans for the 6 most common causes of death did not reveal any statistically significant differences in mortality between vegans and regular meat eaters. When we censored the data to study mortality before age 75, the results were broadly similar to those for mortality to age 90.

[Nullpositiv]

Ich habs gelesen. Und dir dargelegt warum ich die Studie (und die Meinung teilen auch die Autoren) für beschränkt allgemeingültig halte (was du implizierst).

[AIL]

"Mortality in vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians"
"comparable nonvegetarians" bedeutet in dem Fall, dass nicht Durchschnittveg mit Durchschnitssomni verglichen wurde, sondern dass die Omnis nach Kriterien ausgewählt wurden, die dem Durchschnittsveg entsprachen.

Freuen sie sich auf unsere nächste Studie mit dem Titel:
"Weightlifting in men and comparable women"

[somebody]

Lt einem vorhin angelesenen - leider weniger als 100 vegane Menschen erfassenden und keine bahnbrechenden neuen Einsichten eröffnenden - neuen Paper schauts recht positiv für vegane Menschen aus.

[Kakifuchs]

Wichtiges Video, wie ich finde. Vegan rettet einem nicht automatisch den Arsch. Irgndwo hab ich mal gelesen, Industriezucker wirkt wie Sandpapier auf Arterienwände. Cholesterin muss dann flicken kommen, auch bei Veganern.